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Our Aspect podcasts celebrate the strengths, passions, and experiences of the Autistic community through open and authentic conversations. Hosted by Madeleine Jaine Lobsey, an Autistic ADHD parent and advocate, the latest episode explores why so many older Autistic people have gone undiagnosed, the lasting impact of late recognition, and the critical need for autism-friendly accommodations in healthcare and aged care.

Join us for a conversation that sheds light on an often-overlooked generation and the changes needed to create a more inclusive future!

What’s covered in this episode?

  • The history of autism diagnosis and why older generations were missed
  • The consequences of a late diagnosis
  • The burden of masking and the life-changing effect of a diagnosis
  • Challenges and barriers in healthcare and aged care system for Autistic adults
  • Finding a community and support


Meet Our Guests

Dr. Wenn Lawson

Dr. Wenn Lawson is an Autistic researcher, author, speaker and poet with expertise in autism across generations. He is an Adjunct Associate Professor at Curtin University and a passionate supporter of co-produced research. Wenn’s work focuses on improving autism understanding and support, particularly in areas of mental health and ageing.

Professor Sandra Thom-Jones

Professor Sandra Thom-Jones is an Honorary Professor at the University of Wollongong, an Autistic author, artisan, academic and advocate specialising in autism inclusion in education, employment, and healthcare. She provides consultancy services to education, employment and healthcare providers, and supports for Autistic people, through her consultancy Autistic Professor. She is the author of 'Growing into Autism' and has dedicated her career to ensuring Autistic voices are central in research and policy discussions.

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Aspect's A Different Brilliant ® podcast is available on all major podcast platforms and apps, including Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

About the host, Madeleine Jaine Lobsey

Madeleine has been a facilitator on transformational leadership for 20 years, mentoring individuals across various industries, including politics, education, the arts, sports, and science. She is a keynote speaker, radio host, and creative strategist, helping organisations and individuals expand their impact.

Since 2020, she has focused on the not-for-profit and disability sector. In 2022, she joined The A List, supporting Autistic and neurodivergent youth, and now serves as Chair of its Autistic Advisory Board. With a background in the arts as an actor, writer, and director, she is also leading Wondiverse.

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